How many studs per shoe do ya put in for the eventer's? One in each heel is the norm, same as jumping, back home but I shod a few international eventers with a friend one day and they had him puttin in three per shoe is that normal for the higher grades?
20 to 25 x 10 or 12 mm. The so called "Eventer Shoes cause, IMO-IME's, caudal heel pain. Why?, Look at the heels, they taper, in 2 dynamics. ........
I use two, from my understanding, the three were a UK thing that is falling into disfavor, but I'd yield to someone who as done it to comment on thr three.
I believe the shows ,on grass, at Spruce Meadows, yrs ago, are responsible for 3 stud holes in the hinds
I like Brian shoe them for Dressage and stud them for traction. The way I look at it is they maybe go cross country 2-3 times a cycle but they are doing dressage and jumping 6 days a week.
Back when I first started out I had a bunch of FEI show jumpers come back from Florida with double tapped hind shoes. I had no clue what that was all about so I fired off an email to Tom Stovall. Since the dialog was so educational I kept that email for posterity - what follows is cut and paste from my correspondence with Himslef: Thomas Bloomer wrote: > >Shod a barn full of jumpers this week. Nice well mannered Dutch >Dumbbloods. >All of the shoes were drilled and tapped in the heels for 3/8" screw-in >studs. On the hind shoes there was a 3rd hole tapped on the outside >branch between 3rd and 4th nail holes. The owner didn't know why the >last guy to shoe her horses added the extra hole. Got any ideas about >why you would want an extra stud in that location?... Tom Stovall's Reply: Tom, since it was on everything, the former farrier's motivation was probably to give the barn the ability to double calk their horses if they need added stability on shit-slick or loose surfaces, like wet grass, clay, or sand over concrete (!). If it'd only been on one or two, it most likely would've been done to stop a horse(s) from interfering. A double calk can be an easy-to-do, effective, interference shoe. If you ever get a jumper or eventer that keeps on whacking himself after you've reached the bottom of your trick bag, drill and tap for a calk in lateral TOE quarter, about where the toe nail would normally be. It's not a benign shoe, but it'll stop one from hitting and keep the hock under the hip under the worst of conditions. As with all screw-ins, calks should be inserted only when the horse is being used. .................. Tom Stovall - Thanks for being there. You da man.
Never seen it here Jack. I think the answer to the question is what ever suits the foot in front of you. Its amazing what some clients call an eventer!
im doing a horse tomoro that does a bit of eventhing lady likes C/W behind. I have often put C/W and stud holes on the same shoe behind
the eventer shoes made by st. croix....are really not eventer type shoes; just a name. best to use DF series kerks with 20mm x 10mm heavier shoes or larger mm for the warmbloods in eventing and takes a E-head nail.
Mr. Perry, several years ago, explained to me that the St Croix "Eventer" had heels that were too penciled (narrow) and then too beveled from the hoof surface to the ground, allowing the shoe (and heel) to sink into the surface the horse is working on. The problem I was asking him about was an endurance horse I had in Eventers that had bruising in the heels (corns). I switched to Triumph shoes from Kerkhart, and the bruising healed. The remaining Eventer shoes I had, I would put on a size larger after grinding the ends off the heels, making them wider. For eventing horses I go with the Triumphs or 7/8" concave (just like Smitty) in front; wide web with extra lateral support behind, then a stud in all the heels. I never suggest or install the studs. That's the rider/trainer's job. What ever type you put in will be the wrong ones and they would have won if they hadn't listened to you.
That's what I default to. (Or machine made version thereof) Or whatever suits a particular horse. Two studs per shoe. On very rare occasions I've punched a third hole if requested. The position of stud holes is a funny topic... everyone has firm ideas where they want them without ever being able to explain why. Some want them right behind the last nail hole, some right near the heel, and all points in between.... ??? On my own nags I placed them about an inch from the heel... (10,000 years ago when I was competing), don't like them too far forward.
