Was at a clinic this last weekend and while talking to an attendee there , we got on the subject of pour in pads , he said that someone had done some venegrams (sp?) and had shown compromised blood flow with pour in pads . Have any of you seen such a study ? Obviously the way the pad is poured and type of material used can have different effects on the foot , but am wondering if there's anybody else who has heard of this kind of study. Sent from my phone
Any source of the study? Assuming there is a difference in circulation, I'm wondering what the physiology is that would cause a difference between barefoot, plain shoe, standard pad package, frog support pads, and pour in pads. What are the effects of less circulation or how much is necessary?
If there was compromise of blood flow, surely sole growth would be compromised. I've done a few Rx with Massey University using Equibuild (the hardest setting pour in product) with the specific goal of building sole depth. I was a bit worried about using the hard material, but It generally works well. Perhaps there are other factors involved?
If you reduce function of the foot then there will be an effect throughout, even in blood flow. The call is weather the foot was over functioning before the pour in pad was fitted. If you chop the toe down and burn the shoe on you can come back 6 weeks later and it hasnt grown a mm!
David slightly off topic I will be doing a pour in pad in the next day or so on a polo pony. vet talked an egg bar aswell but he said I will leave it up to you is it a good thing going with an eggy
Its the shoe I use the most for lameness with the most success, But I tend to be less radical than an egg shape. More a straight bar with a radius. What is wrong with the polo pony?
Smitty over here polo horse owners dont seemed to be strapped for cash..but thats the impression I get on the very few I have come across...I have not came across many I will admit. .or is getting a radiograph and a clear diagnose that expensive where you are..
I think he said who it was ...but I don't remember the name . Or where it was done . Sent from my phone
I guess this is my real question .. Do those of you using pour ins find that the sole - wall has grown nicely when you use these products ?? Most of the time I use equipak for run under crushed heels - compromised back half of the foot - Etc it seems to help the horses soundness and help open up the back of the foot .. But I'm never really happy with the foot growth with this package . On horses that I chose for whatever reason to use a leather pad and say magic cushion under ..have grown a very nice foot over the cycle ?? Sent from my phone
I seldom use pour ins, because of the cost of the stuff down here it's not something you put in on a whim. Off my own bat, I'll generally use something else if needed.... so small sample size in my practice. In those hooves that don't grow with it it, don't really grow anyway. Those I've done with Massey have worked in building sole depth and no problems with wall growth at all. I was doing a dressage stable in NZ where the guy before used it in every hoof. Owner couldn't explain why. I reckon it was just an upsell. But they seemed to not have a problem with grwth either. JME
Not "a study" but IME's. A pout works VERY well with a rim pad. Thus, pouring up to the rim pad and not to the ground surfuace of the shoe. Empirical thought, a compromised sole has lack of solar circulation; "SOB doesn't grow any foot", so pour it to the ground surface...... BTW John, I would suggest to pour up to foot surface of the shoe it will give the "polo" pony a bit more traction....... a pic of how I use "sticky pads to accomplish a pour up to...."
I like that idea Jay ... Do you leave it at rim pad level through the heels ? Or would it work to bring pour to ground level say at widest part of the foot back without the pressure on the circumflex artery .... Sent from my phone
Usually after a couple weeks the frog finds the ground and the "Pour" is gone, just around the frog. My go to app for pedal osteoitis. Just "pour" enough to "cover" the screen,, make sure to cover heels before pour with Duct tape. Excess will seep around the edges of sticky pad. "Pour it, apply sticky and place foot down:::... Don't hold up until set!
I threw out 4 cartridges of assorted vettec today.. about $150 down the drain..I will never carry it in my rig again over aweek..?
Put it in a cooler Gary. I carry mine everyday. Never have a problem. Old product or not, still works.
Gary, what was wrong with the Vettec you threw out? I know they say the shelf life is one year, but I've used stuff I had in my cellar for 2 years. When I use a tube off the truck, I replace it with one from the cellar. I mark on the package when I bought it and use the oldest stuff first. The only time I've had any go bad was a couple times when I had only used half a tube and left it in the truck for quite a while. I don't carry it in the winter. Regards
