Agreed w/u about John. i don't agree about raising/ or giving job opprotunities. IMO, giving a "young" one structure to work by, each shop is different, they "might learn" a work ethic that will/might carry them through life's "curve balls". I encourage my apprentices/students to work w/ as many people as they can. Thus learning to see different styles of work, business approaches and ethics as possible. In turn and in years forth coming they, the students, can approach a life's passion in a style leaned from many not just one; whether in farriery or "would you like fries/chips with your order". That is how I did my apprenticiships.
Jaye , that is exactly what John will do , everybody looks up to him and his educational qualities , his reputation is second to none , but i feel that a young persons educational progress should be kept in house , once qualified its a different matter
Again Agreed w/ John's creds. "Keeping a students' progression" in one circle of style is not "exposing" them to a real wold experience(s).
Let it be up to the Lad as to whether his work should be posted. We have seen several here over the years, who have put their crap work out for all to see, took the knocks, and gotten much better. If he is willing, or not, to put his stuff out there, may give insight to character.
I Will be taken this lad on he will get to know this on friday he got some forge work this evening from lighting the coke fire propper to be able to use a sledge and drilled him on how to do fire man for some one making sets of shoes these things will be done most every day for him starting off doing fire man was a bit strange for him but he will cop on to it
"from pulling off to pulling down" to a "fire man"? Usually I prefer a master of pulling off to pulling down to a progression to a floor man/woman to fire man. Master each step with influence or "practice" in the off hours....just my shop....guess the lad has a bit of homework
I dont see any reason why anyone would feel the need to criticise the lads work if the thread is titled correctly and people realise he is training. I thought from what John said the point of the thread is about viewing a persons progression through the four years and how his ability develops through time, training and proper direction. Obviously things in the beginning will be rough but im sure he will be embarressing most of us on here within 12 to 18 months knowing Johns other apprentices. Anyone who posts any negative feedback on a lad who is just starting is obviously just a bit of pri#k!
Didn't critize lad's work or John's ability to teach farriery. I critized the "lad's" dress code. if one had read the post "properly", then one needs to look in the mirror for the " pri*ck that can't read".
I wasnt replying to your post, it was a general comment to the thread, a couple of people had mentioned criticizm would knock the lad, hence what I said. I didnt realise you had knocked his dress code, each to their own in that regard in my opinion, if we dressed in Ireland how alot of you southern guys dress customers would think we were going to a village people reunion or a fancy dress party Thats not meant offensively it just shows how region to region dress code can be seen very differently.
I just saw the other thread now, the comment wasn't aimed at you. I would have posted in that thread if I was.
Well i let him loose today he was out injured for 2 moths hand problem 1st go at the hole job. pony has a straight quarters type of foot
This work is like anything else. There are those who got real natural talent and then there are those who have to work real hard on getting it done, but do. You might have one with the real natural talent.
Glad you decided to go ahead with this thread, Smitty. I look forward to seeing more posts of his work.
