Newspaper article and might it relate to farriers/horseowners

Ray,

I need -
20 carbide pins in 1/8"
20 carbide pins in 3/16"
2 drill bits for each size (that's 4 drill bits total)
and an order of asparagus . . .

Thanks

Why are cutting instead of the proper snapping of asparagus?

I think cutting it looks more professional - as long as the person cutting it wears a collared shirt, of course.

...and verifies correct depth and levelness of the cut with a proper asparangus jig.

He just wants to sell additional weight in the form of inedible stalk....Capitalist ne'er do well. the proceeding comment was a feeble attempt at humor posted during my lunch break and might have been affected by dehydration...

Ask Ray

Asparagus in the morning? You are gormet all the way.

As to the intent of your post - boy has this been a hot topic among professionals I know. What would it look like to the public if they post a pick of a horse being restrained with a lip chain, a twitch etc etc. Well - I say the public will sure a heck understand what they see when they understand the intent. And to keep it boy style, you know wat they say about the faces of agony and extacy (you come up with the examples )... They are indistinguishable till you see the rest of the picture.

So I would say everyone who I spoke to is pretty sure their stuff will hold up to any test - because they are sure of their intent.

I just hope the asparagas was properly sedated prior to cutting.

A woman I knew once took in a rescued horse that was in terrible shape. She put him out in a pasture with some other old horses. A woman drove by the pasture daily, and eventually called the police to report an "abused" horse. The cops came and were satisfied that she was rehabbing an abused horse, not abusing the horse. However the lady in the car, seeing nothing changing, decided to throw a bale of alfalfa over the fence for the horse, which caused the horse to colic and die.

What could have been done to prevent this from happening? How would one know not to give a starved horse a bale of alfalfa?

I've got customer's that if I back hand slap their horse they have a fit and fall in it until I explain why fluffy got a wake up call. I've got others that ask if I want them to knock the crap out of their horse while I take a break. I shoe at places where I'd be scared to death to hit a horse for the presence of people who think all horses are precious and are to be treated like royalty and a smack, tap, or belly kick would get me run out of town on a rail covered with tar and feathers.


What constitutes abuse is different in all types of peoples worlds. I had a friend up in Wyoming who did the same as the guy in Ray's post. His dog never did learn, he just got tough and fought back. Dumb and Dumber never work out like in the movies.

Good to see you here Ben!!! When I worked with elephants people did and still do harass handlers and make all kinds of claims of abuse.. when you work with animals there is a time that correction is important to keep you from physical harm...when I need to correct a horse I usually do it so fast the horse didnt know what happened but understood and changed its additude..could never figure out how slapping a horse with a cupped hand to make more of a sound rather than bruise when two horses in a kick fight would break every bone in a persons body darn near???

I could have gotten in trouble once, thinking back. I had been trimming a demon miniature donkey for about 16 months. Every time an appointment came up I dreaded it. He had kicked me 8 times, twice in the face. I'm glad he was a mini, lol. The last time I was there he kicked me twice. The second time was a really good one, and I drew off and kicked him back so hard his feet came off the ground. She said "You kicked him!!" She had never said a word when he kicked me. I walked out to the truck and brought her back a list of farriers and trimmers to try, my least favorite ones at the top. I never felt so good as I did driving down that driveway, away from demon Wilbur. Upon reflection, I decided to try to never do that again - Kick the horse, or leave the list. Nothing was accomplished by it. Better to just give them a big bill and never come back.

Regards

Well there's something even more fundamentally wrong with what you've said.

I used to provide respite care for horses that had been taken in by the ILPH (now World Horse Welfare) and ordinarily pending court cases and owner prosecution.

How you provide that sort of nonsense is:

You ensure the authorities know what you're doing in advance and that they understand you're not some random "do-gooder" who collects skinny abused horses.

You make sure your neighbours also know.

You work in the community to educate and inform about horse welfare generally. You even run things like open days so people know what you do.

You put the horse somewhere where it's safe from scrutiny and because it's pretty obvious that any sane person who saw it would know it hadn't been fed enough.

You put signs on your gates and fences to clearly say that you're a rehabilitation or welfare centre and that the animal in the field is being rehabilitated or recovered with care and diligence and as such it must be kept calm and quiet and not fed treats as that could kill it.

Thomas you are totally right, those things should have been done. However, I thought this thread was about how people may see the same thing and decide differently about what's going on. Obviously this lady thought she was doing the right thing. The owner may have assumed that people would automatically know why the horse was skinny.
Seeing the whole picture? Thinking about intent? Neither one gave that a thought. Did they?

Reminds me of the French Revolution.